posted
30th April 2003 10:29
CB
reset philosophy
Reading through the SR 111 Investigation Report
I came across a paragraph about the resetting
of
CBs. It states the need for "clear
and unambiguous message stipulating the acceptable
CB reset philosophy, and the consequences
of an inappropriate CB reset".
We (FA's) used to be allowed to reset the
CB in galleys and the Purser work station.
It changed to only reset after contact with
the pilots and last year to "no reset".
Point is, not everybody knows about it, the
rule change wasn't emphasised and as a result,
I still see FAs resetting CBs without giving
it a thought.
Anyone who can tell me what the norm is at
other airlines, how much emphasis is put on
it and how well CB procedures get followed
by the (cabin) crew?
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Never reset it
alone, ask first the F/D.
Never saw anyone (C/A) resetting a CB in my career. |
At my previous
airline, the philosophy was that, should a CB pop in the air,
a reset could be attempted, on several conditions:-
- The service was essential to the flight
- It is only reset when needed - i.e. if it was for the gear,
only reset just before wanting to lower the dangly bits
- It is reset only once
If non-related CB's pop as well, before reset, on reset or
subsequently, then you've got a possible major situation on
your hands.
IMHO, under no circumstances whatsoever should your FAs be resetting
CBs on their own
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From the A321
QRH re 'Tripped C/B Re-engagement'
''In flight, do not re-engage a c/b that has tripped by itself,
unless the captain (using his/her emergency authority) judges
it necessary for the safe continuation of the flight. This procedure
should be adopted only as a last resort, and only one re-engagement
should be attempted.''
I believe that says it all really, whether the c/b in question
is on the flight deck or elsewhere in the aircraft. |
When an electrical
system short-circuits, instead of current flowing from the power
source through a service (like a ridio, or oven) and back
to the power source, it can take a "short ct" and avoid
the resistance of the service. It's a bit like a hose in the garden,
with your thumb over the end providing a resistance to the flow,
take away your thumb (the resistance) and the water can shoot
out of the hose. Electricity does the same, take away the resistance,
and electricity can shoot along the wire. Now electricity moving
along a wire creates heat, and the wire can only handle the amount
of heat due to normal operations - given a short circuit, the
wire will quickly overheat, and eventually cause a fire.
Circuit breakers are designed designed with bimetallic strips,
which bend under heat, popping open the circuit before this heat
damages either wiring or connectors. A specification might be
for a breaker to trip under a massive short jolt (e.g. 10 times
the rated load of the circuit-breaker for between .5 to 1.4 seconds)
or a longer, less intense overload (e.g. twice the rated amperage
for 3-130 seconds, depending on the type of circuit breaker).
If the designed overload conditions are not exceeded, the circuit
breaker will not trip. Some breakers are temperature sensitive
and will trip earlier when warm than cold.
The very tolerances that must be built into a circuit breaker
to prevent nuisance tripping also mean that when it does trip,
it has a fairly major problem with the circuit, which is now heated
up from that problem. Reset the breaker, and the wire, with it's
insulation may catch fire before the extra energy can re-trip
the breaker. Some glitches may not trip the breaker at all. Ticking
faults and arc-tracking are examples. Ticking faults occur when
tiny bolts of electricity intermittently arc from exposed wire
conductor. On wires covered with aromatic polyimide wrap, installed
in many aircraft built since 1970, this can burn the thin insulation,
converting it into carbon, which is an excellent conductor – a
nasty case of the insulator turning into the conductor! This can
in turn lead to very short bursts (micro-seconds) of violent arcing
where localized temperatures can reach extremely hot temperatures
(well in excess of 1,000°C) capable of igniting nearby flammable
material. Nevertheless, short, violent bursts of arc tracking
will not necessarily trip breakers, which are comparatively slow-acting
devices.
It is wise to think twice before resetting any circuit breaker
in flight. It is telling you something is wrong – that there has
been a serious electrical event. This danger signal must be interpreted
with extreme caution. The old rule of thumb to automatically allow
one reset is not prudent. Safety-conscious airlines are now telling
their crews not to reset any breakers unless they are essential
to safety and then to do so only once.
>paraphrased from
this article
You can have a look at
these circuit breaker reset fires (below) from the UK Air
Accident Investigations Board |
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We have a ban
on resetting any fuel pump CBs; but it's the crew's option to
reset any other CB once. |
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it Out!
It's
quite alright to pull and reset a circuit
breaker to reset a faulty unit (much like
turning your computer OFF and ON when it locks
up). But if it pops on its own, leave it alone!
It did exactly what it was designed to do
- that is - save your day! Some years ago,
a DC-9 crew reset a toilet pump circuit breaker
that popped. (One reset). Instead of popping
the second time, the pump motor caught on
fire, which spread to the cabin. Diversion
to Cleveland (or was it Cinci?) and half the
pax perished before the EVAC. Circuit Breakers
are not hi tech, as earlier described, and
they may only work the one time. Did you know
that all system breakers on the A330/340 are
now located in the Avionics Bay, where the
crew can't get to them? There are still some
commercial breakers in the cabin, but the
FAs are specifically told not to reset them.
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See Also the Official FAA and ALPA Policy:
http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/Telltale_Docs/CBresetter.html
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Search DfT for Circuit
Breaker Reset Fires
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Search results: circuit : 1339 / 1339, breakers : 93 / 93, reset
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